A serious question on Dark Shadows - before it existed on TV

Post by Oberon
Hi everyone,
Oberon here. I have a question that I hope someone can answer. I
actually already know the answer, but I need as many folks as possible
to tell me the same thing.
I am on another forum, with people a bit older than myself, I'm 54,
and yada yada, remembering running home to see the show after school,
during its original run of 1966 to 1971.
A person on another forum thinks I am "ignorant", because I refuse to
believe that Dark Shadows existed as a radio show in the 1950s.
The same "Dark Shadows", ie a show about a vampire named Barnabas
Collins.
I have thrown every link from Wikipedia and other sources, that show,
obviously Dan Curtis is the creator and only creator, that the show
did not even start a vampire story til '67, due to sagging ratings.
As evidence, I am supposed to believe her memory trumps my evidence,
because she so clearly remembers this, yet, this is the astonishing
leap of judgement she expects me to take.
Does anyone really remember this as being so? I looked at a link
she sent me and it was only for a TV show on imdb.com about a tv show
called Suspense, that had an episode called Dark Shadows.
sigh.

There WAS such a show. It was a mystery show that had nothing to do
w/normal DS:

http://www.radiotreasury.com/Old_Time_Radio_Mystery_Show.html

sctvguy1

2010-01-07 11:59:08 UTC

Post by vince garcia
There WAS such a show. It was a mystery show that had nothing to do
http://www.radiotreasury.com/Old_Time_Radio_Mystery_Show.html

Wow, great site! Had to bookmark this to look at it in more detail later.

Kishin

2010-01-03 16:09:51 UTC

Memory is notoriously unreliable, and your friend seems ignorant of this
fact. Today it's too easy to check up on these things and call bullshit. And
I call bullshit. Tell this woman to go back to her personal little world and
leave you alone.

--

Kishin

Oberon

2010-01-03 16:26:05 UTC

Well, I can't quite do that in this forum, but I get that. Thanks
anyway.

Vince, thanks for the link, but I have another question now.

There is a newsgroup, alt.radio.oldtime (or oldtimes) that says the
audio portions of the TV show were broadcast on radio.

Are we certain that the link you provided is not that?

I searched several radio/old time radio databases: ( http://otrrpedia.net/
also http://www.old-time.com/humongousdb/ )

These do not reference the result your link gave, no "Dark Shadows" as
an old time radio show, but similar titles, and lots of vampire shows
or programs (The Temple of the Vampires, etc.).

Can you point me to something more specific, as I just can't find
that...

Thanks if you can...

Oberon

vince garcia

2010-01-04 12:37:06 UTC

Post by Oberon

Hmm--i had never heard this! Are THEY sure of this? So I'm gonna have to
say that I do not know the answer.

Post by Oberon
Are we certain that the link you provided is not that?
I searched several radio/old time radio databases: ( http://otrrpedia.net/
also http://www.old-time.com/humongousdb/ )
These do not reference the result your link gave, no "Dark Shadows" as
an old time radio show, but similar titles, and lots of vampire shows
or programs (The Temple of the Vampires, etc.).
Can you point me to something more specific, as I just can't find
that...
Thanks if you can...
Oberon

Oberon

2010-01-04 17:32:21 UTC

Well, none of the extensive data bases I've searched indicate any
other radio program with the name Dark Shadows. It does appear maybe
once or twice as an episode title of some other series. There are
series with similar names, Dark Venture, etc.

I think the lady I am dealing with probably heard audio programs of
"our" DS and doesn't remember what decade she heard them in...

Hmm--i had never heard this! Are THEY sure of this? So I'm gonna have to
say that I do not know the answer.

Are we certain that the link you provided is not that?
I searched several radio/old time radio databases: (http://otrrpedia.net/
also http://www.old-time.com/humongousdb/ )
These do not reference the result your link gave, no "Dark Shadows" as
an old time radio show, but similar titles, and lots of vampire shows
or programs (The Temple of the Vampires, etc.).
Can you point me to something more specific, as I just can't find
that...
Thanks if you can...
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Artys

2010-01-06 23:08:27 UTC

Post by Oberon
Well, none of the extensive data bases I've searched indicate any
other radio program with the name Dark Shadows. It does appear maybe
once or twice as an episode title of some other series. There are
series with similar names, Dark Venture, etc.
I think the lady I am dealing with probably heard audio programs of
"our" DS and doesn't remember what decade she heard them in...

Hmm--i had never heard this! Are THEY sure of this? So I'm gonna have to
say that I do not know the answer.

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Well, at one time there were radio stations that broadcast soap
operas. You could listen to them at work. Perhaps DS was one of
them.

Anim8rFSK

2010-01-07 14:24:33 UTC

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Post by Kishin
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Memory is notoriously unreliable, and your friend seems ignorant of this
fact. Today it's too easy to check up on these things and call
bullshit. And
I call bullshit. Tell this woman to go back to her personal little
world and
leave you alone.
--
Kishin

Hmm--i had never heard this! Are THEY sure of this? So I'm gonna have to
say that I do not know the answer.

Are we certain that the link you provided is not that?
(http://otrrpedia.net/
also http://www.old-time.com/humongousdb/ )
These do not reference the result your link gave, no "Dark Shadows" as
an old time radio show, but similar titles, and lots of vampire shows
or programs (The Temple of the Vampires, etc.).
Can you point me to something more specific, as I just can't find
that...
Thanks if you can...
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Well, at one time there were radio stations that broadcast soap
operas. You could listen to them at work. Perhaps DS was one of
them.

There were also radios that would pick up TV station audio; I had one at
my office. Lots of people listened to their soap operas at work.

--
Tiger Woods has just been named "Athlete of the Decade"
His chosen event? The Broad Jump.

vince garcia

2010-01-07 23:20:49 UTC

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Post by Oberon
Hi everyone,
Oberon here. I have a question that I hope someone can answer. I
actually already know the answer, but I need as many folks as
possible
to tell me the same thing.
I am on another forum, with people a bit older than myself, I'm
54,
and yada yada, remembering running home to see the show after
school,
during its original run of 1966 to 1971.
A person on another forum thinks I am "ignorant", because I refuse
to
believe that Dark Shadows existed as a radio show in the 1950s.
The same "Dark Shadows", ie a show about a vampire named Barnabas
Collins.
I have thrown every link from Wikipedia and other sources, that
show,
obviously Dan Curtis is the creator and only creator, that the show
did not even start a vampire story til '67, due to sagging ratings.
As evidence, I am supposed to believe her memory trumps my
evidence,
because she so clearly remembers this, yet, this is the astonishing
leap of judgement she expects me to take.
Does anyone really remember this as being so? I looked at a link
she sent me and it was only for a TV show on imdb.com about a tv
show
called Suspense, that had an episode called Dark Shadows.
sigh.

Memory is notoriously unreliable, and your friend seems ignorant of
this
fact. Today it's too easy to check up on these things and call
bullshit. And
I call bullshit. Tell this woman to go back to her personal little
world and
leave you alone.
--
Kishin

Hmm--i had never heard this! Are THEY sure of this? So I'm gonna have to
say that I do not know the answer.

Post by Oberon
Are we certain that the link you provided is not that?
(http://otrrpedia.net/
also http://www.old-time.com/humongousdb/ )
These do not reference the result your link gave, no "Dark Shadows" as
an old time radio show, but similar titles, and lots of vampire shows
or programs (The Temple of the Vampires, etc.).
Can you point me to something more specific, as I just can't find
that...
Thanks if you can...
Oberon- Hide quoted text -

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Well, at one time there were radio stations that broadcast soap
operas. You could listen to them at work. Perhaps DS was one of
them.

There were also radios that would pick up TV station audio; I had one at
my office. Lots of people listened to their soap operas at work.
--
Tiger Woods has just been named "Athlete of the Decade"
His chosen event? The Broad Jump.

Yeah they were great if you were in a big city with VHF broadcasting. We
only had UHF here, so radios would not pick up the signals

Anim8rFSK

2010-01-08 15:17:50 UTC

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Post by Oberon
Hi everyone,
Oberon here. I have a question that I hope someone can
answer. I
actually already know the answer, but I need as many folks as
possible
to tell me the same thing.
I am on another forum, with people a bit older than myself,
I'm
54,
and yada yada, remembering running home to see the show after
school,
during its original run of 1966 to 1971.
A person on another forum thinks I am "ignorant", because I
refuse
to
believe that Dark Shadows existed as a radio show in the 1950s.
The same "Dark Shadows", ie a show about a vampire named
Barnabas
Collins.
I have thrown every link from Wikipedia and other sources, that
show,
obviously Dan Curtis is the creator and only creator, that the
show
did not even start a vampire story til '67, due to sagging
ratings.
As evidence, I am supposed to believe her memory trumps my
evidence,
because she so clearly remembers this, yet, this is the
astonishing
leap of judgement she expects me to take.
Does anyone really remember this as being so? I looked at a
link
she sent me and it was only for a TV show on imdb.com about a
tv
show
called Suspense, that had an episode called Dark Shadows.
sigh.

Memory is notoriously unreliable, and your friend seems ignorant of
this
fact. Today it's too easy to check up on these things and call
bullshit. And
I call bullshit. Tell this woman to go back to her personal little
world and
leave you alone.
--
Kishin

Hmm--i had never heard this! Are THEY sure of this? So I'm gonna have to
say that I do not know the answer.

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Well, at one time there were radio stations that broadcast soap
operas. You could listen to them at work. Perhaps DS was one of
them.

Yeah they were great if you were in a big city with VHF broadcasting. We
only had UHF here, so radios would not pick up the signals

Unless you got Dark Shadows on channel 15 or something. :)

--
As Adam West as Bruce Wayne as Batman said in "Smack in the Middle"
the second half of the series pilot when Jill St. John as Molly as
Robin as Molly fell into the Batmobile's atomic pile:
"What a way to go-go"

Paul

2010-01-11 06:46:29 UTC

Post by vince garcia
Yeah they were great if you were in a big city with VHF broadcasting. We
only had UHF here, so radios would not pick up the signals

We were able to receive our local ABC affiliate which broadcast on VHF
Channel 9 on the FM dial in the 87-90 range. So it is possible that
person heard DS on the radio and just forgot that it was the late 60's
or early 70's that she heard it.

Oberon

2010-01-12 19:02:42 UTC

Post by Paul

Post by vince garcia
Yeah they were great if you were in a big city with VHF broadcasting. We
only had UHF here, so radios would not pick up the signals

Oberon: Well, there is some sort of abiding piece with me and that
person. She is a dear older gal; I have nothing against age, since
I'm mid-50s myself, but she is a bit closer to my mother's age...

Due to the nature of the group and list we belong to, it is not
appropriate to flame her, call her names or anything of the sort.
Like I said, in most ways she is a friend, I just couldn't handle her
screwing up my specific memories.

So, at the end of the day we *sort* of agree that she probably heard
it on the radio in the late '60s or '70s.

Wiseguy

2010-01-13 16:07:27 UTC

Post by Paul

Post by vince garcia
Yeah they were great if you were in a big city with VHF broadcasting. We
only had UHF here, so radios would not pick up the signals

That would be channel 6 not 9.

The audio bands of VHF stations 2-6 ended at 88 MHz where FM started so you
could hear channel 6 audio at the start of the FM band. Our local channel 6
frequently advertised that if you were in your car during news time you
could listen to the audio at 87 MHz.
Channels 7-13 audio were in a higher band of frequencies.

Paul

2010-01-31 22:33:39 UTC