Movie Box Office Totals

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkshadows.htm

Not too bad at all.

[Marcovaldo]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkshadows.htm Not too bad at all.

Good. I hope that means sequel.

[Ken Arromdee]

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkshadows.htm
Not too bad at all.

There's a very odd bump on July 20-21. That wasn't a holiday.

My best theory is that that's the moment when the movie went to discount
theaters, but that theory is based on no facts whatsoever.

[Diva Magenta]

It's weird that Amazon has HODS and NODS listed, with release date,
price and pre-ordering avalability, but the new movie, even though it's
coming out at the beginning of October, well before the Oct. 30th date
of HODS and NODS, still doesn't list a date (despite its announcemet)
or a price, and therefore no pre-order yet.

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Amazon finally has the DS movie up and listed with price and date,
available for pre-order.

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkshadows.htm
Not too bad at all.

There's a very odd bump on July 20-21. That wasn't a holiday.
My best theory is that that's the moment when the movie went to discount
theaters, but that theory is based on no facts whatsoever.

What discount theaters?

All the second run theaters around here in this part of the US of A
are now gone, put out of business by DVD/VHS sales.

I'd expect that the bump in sales was due to "we must see this
movie this week, it will be gone next week."
.
Or maybe it was movie goers who were scared off of going to
see Batman. Or the movie goers wanted something to see
but Batman was sold out.

BTW, that weekiend was a holiday, many had it off as their vacation
week.

[Wiseguy]

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Post by Ken Arromdee

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkshadows.htm
Not too bad at all.

There's a very odd bump on July 20-21. That wasn't a holiday.
My best theory is that that's the moment when the movie went to discount
theaters, but that theory is based on no facts whatsoever.

What discount theaters?
All the second run theaters around here in this part of the US of A
are now gone, put out of business by DVD/VHS sales.
I'd expect that the bump in sales was due to "we must see this
movie this week, it will be gone next week."
.
Or maybe it was movie goers who were scared off of going to
see Batman. Or the movie goers wanted something to see
but Batman was sold out.
BTW, that weekiend was a holiday, many had it off as their vacation
week.

That doesn't make it a holiday.

[Diva Magenta]

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All the second run theaters around here
in this part of the US of A are now gone,
put out of business by DVD/VHS sales.

We're in a small town, and only have one six-plex theatre (Regal), so we
save money by being selective about what we see, avoidng 3-D, going to
matinees (less crowded as well as cheaper), and taking advantage of the
theatre loyalty card where you earn free tickets and snacks, as well as
concession discount items on certain days. Sigh...I miss the days when
I used to write movie reviews for the local paper and got to go as often
as I wanted for free! :)

Several years ago, a couple transformed a local building into a little
theatre. It was very nice, they had a few tables up front with chairs
around them, and rows of seats behind that (plastic patio chairs). They
had a litle table set up with coffee, iced tea and cookies - and
sometimes popcorn - with a donation jar, and the tickets were cheap too.
They showed all kinds of great movies - classics, foreign films,
arthouse films. I saw things like Citizen Kane, Son Of The Shiek, a
midnight showing of Nosferatu, the original The Little Shop Of Horrors,
Cocteau's Beauty And The Beast, and many more great films. It was a
warm and charming place, obviously a labor of love, and I always enjoyed
talking movies with the owners. Unfortunately they ran into some legal
issues and ended up cllosing it down. I miss that place.

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All the second run theaters around here
in this part of the US of A are now gone,
put out of business by DVD/VHS sales.

We're in a small town, and only have one six-plex theatre (Regal), so we
save money by being selective about what we see, avoidng 3-D, going to
matinees (less crowded as well as cheaper), and taking advantage of the
theatre loyalty card where you earn free tickets and snacks, as well as
concession discount items on certain days. Sigh...I miss the days when
I used to write movie reviews for the local paper and got to go as often
as I wanted for free! :)
Several years ago, a couple transformed a local building into a little
theatre. It was very nice, they had a few tables up front with chairs
around them, and rows of seats behind that (plastic patio chairs). They
had a litle table set up with coffee, iced tea and cookies - and
sometimes popcorn - with a donation jar, and the tickets were cheap too.
They showed all kinds of great movies - classics, foreign films,
arthouse films. I saw things like Citizen Kane, Son Of The Shiek, a
midnight showing of Nosferatu, the original The Little Shop Of Horrors,
Cocteau's Beauty And The Beast, and many more great films. It was a
warm and charming place, obviously a labor of love, and I always enjoyed
talking movies with the owners. Unfortunately they ran into some legal
issues and ended up cllosing it down. I miss that place.

I would point out it's very difficult to break even at a movie
theater. That is why they charge so much for concessions.

[Diva Magenta]

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I would point out it's very difficult to
break even at a movie theater. That is
why they charge so much for
concessions.

Yes, that's what I've heard as well. But it does seem as if would be a
win-win to lower prices just enough to encourage people to go more
frequently. For example, our local matinee non-3-D price is $7.50. If
they lowered it to, say, $5, even if it was very limited like the first
showing of any film on Tuesdays, we'd probably go quite a bit more.

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I would point out it's very difficult to
break even at a movie theater. That is
why they charge so much for
concessions.

Yes, that's what I've heard as well. But it does seem as if would be a
win-win to lower prices just enough to encourage people to go more
frequently. For example, our local matinee non-3-D price is $7.50. If
they lowered it to, say, $5, even if it was very limited like the first
showing of any film on Tuesdays, we'd probably go quite a bit more.

Send suggestions like that to theater management.

I would also mention that theaters have alot of expenses, like buying
3D projctors, buying IMAX equipment, maintaining the building and
surrounding grounds, payroll, etc.

Also many of the older theaters are being replaced by
modern, stadium seating theaters, with 15-20 screens.

[Diva Magenta]

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Send suggestions like that to theater
management.

Unfortunately, ever since our theatre was acquired by Regal, all
decisions are made by the head office and they tell us they can't do
much of anything locally.

Regal is great, and I like the loyalty card benefits, but back when it
was a privately-owned theare, they had a lot more leeway. They used to
host our Halloween weekend Rocky Horror performances along with the
movie, which were always hugely popular, but since Regal bought it they
haven't even showed the movie, let alone had the cast performing.

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I would also mention that theaters have
alot of expenses, like buying 3D
projctors, buying IMAX equipment,
maintaining the building and
surrounding grounds, payroll, etc.

Oh yes, I understand that. My point was not that they should practially
give away movie tickets, but rather make a reasonable discount available
during off-peak screenngs that would encourage people to come back more
often and likely spend more money overall.

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Post by Diva Magenta
Regal is great, and I like the loyalty card benefits, but back when it
was a privately-owned theare, they had a lot more leeway. They used to
host our Halloween weekend Rocky Horror performances along with the
movie, which were always hugely popular, but since Regal bought it they
haven't even showed the movie, let alone had the cast performing.

Could that be a rights issue?

Around here in this part of the US of A we had two theaters that ran
Rocky Horror each week. One burned down, the other one just
closed since it only had five screens and was in a heavily popluated
city (read: no parking.) That second theater ran Rocky Horror
for every week since 1974.

They had scheduled a Rocky Horror showing at a nearby
mexplex when the Aurora shooting occurred. The result
is going to be no costumers at any moveis any more. I don't
kwow if Rocky Horror can survive without the costumes and the
audience inteaction.

I would have to think your theater either couldn't get the rights,
or it didin't attract enough people. As I said our local theater ran
it every week since 1974.

BTW, this theater that has run it since 1974 was owned by Sacks,
which merged with AMC. We have a few Regal theaters here but
not many.

BTW, when your theater ran Rocky Horror was it a midnight show?
Coutl that be a situation where the local board of seletmen/town
council/city counciil refused to allow the film to be shown? Without
more infarmation i'd be hesitant to blame the theater. Too many
outside factors could be to blame here.

[You mention a performance group, could this performance group
have been stepping on the toes of another Rocky Horror
performance group? We have of them around here
and they have agreements with various entities that
give them exclusive rights. They've been well established for
a number of years. They do performances for Rocky
Horror, Buffy, and other shows.]

Finally could the theater have been complaining about the
mess left behind? In recent years the theater around
here has limited the amount of stuff that could be brought
in.

Post by Diva Magenta
Oh yes, I understand that. My point was not that they should practially
give away movie tickets, but rather make a reasonable discount available
during off-peak screenngs that would encourage people to come back more
often and likely spend more money overall.

OK I have to be blunt here. Between the cost of moives, the cost of
renovating/maintaining the bullding, buying/mantaining the projection
equipment, paying the taxes/payroll/et. means the days
of a $1.00 movie are gone. As it is at $12.50 for movies in this
part of the US of A the theater is loosing money. The concessions
make up the difference. They already do stuff in off peak hours:
the bargain matinee. But a number of theaters now only run those
bargain matinees at 1pm and wait until after 7pm to run any other
movies. The population that would attend the bargain matinees
are either in school/working/etc.

[Diva Magenta]

RE: Rocky Horror... I can't say for sure why they decided to stop. it
wasn't as if it was a regular weekly show, we just did an annual
Halloween-weekend set of midnight shows (Fri-Sat, plus Halloween itself
if it was on Thursday or Sunday, to make it a 3-day weekend), which were
usually packed and very popular. During the year, we would have people
come up to us and ask if we were doing Rocky on Halloween again. The
cast even helped sweep up rice, cards, etc. afterward, so the money made
from a full theatre's worth of tickets would more than make up for any
little extra cleaning the staff needed to do.

This was back when the theatre was still privately-owned, not since
Regal took over, which is why it seems it was a corporate thing. They
still do midnight shows, but just the usual popular day-before-release
big films like Dark Knight, Twilight, etc. that many theatres do, no
specialty ones like Rocky.

As for "stepping on toes," no, we're in a small town, and the closest
places that did Rocky were in the Bay Area, about 2-1/2 hours away, so
we were no competition to anyone.

Yes, I can imagine the Colorado tragedy wlll have a huge effect on Rocky
screenings, between banniing of costumes and having to search (or ban)
everyone's prop kits. As you said, audience participation is a huge
part of the Rocky experience, and that is going to put a real damper on
it.

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His favor. Christianity is the good news that God has reached out in
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