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Which episode do we see Barnabas' portrait?
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kitekrazy
2009-04-22 02:35:17 UTC
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I finally seen it in the episode when Carolyn threatens to blow Willy's
head off. It appears in the ending credits.

Did anyone see it appear before?
Bill
2009-04-22 22:45:12 UTC
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Post by kitekrazy
I finally seen it in the episode when Carolyn threatens to blow Willy's
head off. It appears in the ending credits.
Did anyone see it appear before?
I just watched these episodes recently. That appears to be the first
episode where we saw Barnabas' portrait. What gets me is there was no
explanation for its appearance. Just a few episodes prior to this, the
camera panned to that same part of the foyer and we saw a mirror hanging
there.

Since Roger had been searching, a week or so earlier, for paintings
belonging to Sam Evans, I thought for certain that he might have
accidentally stumbled upon the picture of Barnabas in storage, and
decided to hang it in the foyer. Apparently, though, the writers simply
decided to have it appear right out of thin air, with no explanation.
Oh, well...it's not as if a DS viewer in 1967 could shuttle through
tapes of the show to prove or disprove this...that's, no doubt, what the
writers were counting on.
unknown
2009-04-22 23:47:12 UTC
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Post by kitekrazy
I finally seen it in the episode when Carolyn threatens to blow Willy's
head off. It appears in the ending credits.
Did anyone see it appear before?
I just watched these episodes recently. That appears to be the first
episode where we saw Barnabas' portrait. What gets me is there was no
explanation for its appearance. Just a few episodes prior to this, the
camera panned to that same part of the foyer and we saw a mirror hanging
there.
Since Roger had been searching, a week or so earlier, for paintings
belonging to Sam Evans, I thought for certain that he might have
accidentally stumbled upon the picture of Barnabas in storage, and decided
to hang it in the foyer. Apparently, though, the writers simply decided to
have it appear right out of thin air, with no explanation. Oh, well...it's
not as if a DS viewer in 1967 could shuttle through tapes of the show to
prove or disprove this...that's, no doubt, what the writers were counting
on.
It's also possible they shot those ending credits days after the episode was
shot and the studio was already setup for the upcoming episodes that
included the Barnabas portrait.
Bill
2009-04-23 00:19:32 UTC
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It's also possible they shot those ending credits days after the episode was
shot and the studio was already setup for the upcoming episodes that
included the Barnabas portrait.
I doubt it. The portrait was officially introduced on the following
day's episode, in a scene where young David Collins explained to Willie
Loomis that the man in the portrait was named Barnabas Collins. The
closing credit sequence from the day before was more than likely a small
teaser of things to come.
kitekrazy
2009-04-23 03:12:23 UTC
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Post by unknown
It's also possible they shot those ending credits days after the
episode was shot and the studio was already setup for the upcoming
episodes that included the Barnabas portrait.
I doubt it. The portrait was officially introduced on the following
day's episode, in a scene where young David Collins explained to
Willie Loomis that the man in the portrait was named Barnabas Collins.
The closing credit sequence from the day before was more than likely a
small teaser of things to come.
This is the first time I've seen these episodes. I didn't know there was a
different guy playing Willie.

I just realized how great the Jason McGuire story is and the excellent
acting to make that character work. Every time you seen him you wanted him
dead. That smirk you just wanted to punch out of him. It brings a lot of
emotion out of a viewer. Dark Shadows has some great villains.
Bill
2009-04-25 01:28:59 UTC
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Post by kitekrazy
Post by Bill
Post by unknown
It's also possible they shot those ending credits days after the
episode was shot and the studio was already setup for the upcoming
episodes that included the Barnabas portrait.
I doubt it. The portrait was officially introduced on the following
day's episode, in a scene where young David Collins explained to
Willie Loomis that the man in the portrait was named Barnabas Collins.
The closing credit sequence from the day before was more than likely a
small teaser of things to come.
This is the first time I've seen these episodes. I didn't know there was a
different guy playing Willie.
I just realized how great the Jason McGuire story is and the excellent
acting to make that character work. Every time you seen him you wanted him
dead. That smirk you just wanted to punch out of him. It brings a lot of
emotion out of a viewer. Dark Shadows has some great villains.
I thought James Hall did a great job portraying the evil, despicable
character that Willie was in the beginning. I was screaming, "SHOOT
HIM!" when Carolyn threatened him with that gun...that scene was as
close to attempted rape as Dark Shadows ever attempted.

I love these early episodes as well. There's something that I'm very
curious about now. James Hall's next to last appearance as Willie rested
heavily upon his character in virtually every scene. The opening slate
for that episode, on the MPI DVD, has the announcer declaring that it's
"take 3," which most certainly would have been rare for Dark Shadows,
given time and budget constraints. John Karlen assumed the role just two
episodes later. I can't help but wonder if James Hall's departure had
anything to do with that "take 3" episode.

kitekrazy
2009-04-23 03:02:21 UTC
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Post by Bill
Post by kitekrazy
I finally seen it in the episode when Carolyn threatens to blow Willy's
head off. It appears in the ending credits.
Did anyone see it appear before?
I just watched these episodes recently. That appears to be the first
episode where we saw Barnabas' portrait. What gets me is there was no
explanation for its appearance. Just a few episodes prior to this, the
camera panned to that same part of the foyer and we saw a mirror
hanging there.
Since Roger had been searching, a week or so earlier, for paintings
belonging to Sam Evans, I thought for certain that he might have
accidentally stumbled upon the picture of Barnabas in storage, and
decided to hang it in the foyer. Apparently, though, the writers
simply decided to have it appear right out of thin air, with no
explanation. Oh, well...it's not as if a DS viewer in 1967 could
shuttle through tapes of the show to prove or disprove this...that's,
no doubt, what the writers were counting on.
It doesn't matter since it's Barnabas that keeps the show from getting
cancelled.
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