Post by Diva MagentaOK, I think we must still be talking about two different scenes here, so
I'll add spoiler space...
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The only censor-worthy scene regarding Roger was when he was in the coat
room with the girl during the party. Certainly not explicit in any way,
but they wouldn't have shown that on the series, agreed.
The scene where he is going through the coats. I have to wonder
if censors woould have allowed that on network TV during the day.
They may have allowed one or two but would they have
put their foot down and said no more?
I've read enough about TV in that era to have to wonder if
after Willie Loomis and Paul Stoddard if the censors whould
have put their foot down and said no more, that Roger would
be off limiits in that regard.
Post by Diva MagentaBut the scene I was talking about was when Barnabas confronted Roger
after witnessing that little tryst, and also trying to find his way into
the secret room where the valuables were that he saw Barnabas coming out
of. Barnabas gave him the ultimatum of either staying at Collinwood,
manning up and being the father that David needed and deserved, or be
given enough money to get out of town and never look back.
Remeber Banabas also sees him going through the coats.
Post by Diva MagentaRoger chose the latter, and as strained as their relationship was on the
show, I can absolutely not picture Roger *ever* leaving David behind
like that, nor would he tell the girl he was with, when asked about
David, that he didn't know who he was and had never seen him before in
his life.
Maybe Roger was under hypnosis that if asked he didn't know
who David was? And/or didn't know who Barnabas was?
Maybe that is one of those scenes that ended up on the curring
room floor?
Post by Diva MagentaRoger may have had a self-serving nature, but he wasn't a
repellent creep.
I have to wonder if in the original series he was but those scenes
never got past the censors.
Post by Diva MagentaI'm also torn as to whether Barnabas' reaction to Julia's betrayal was
overblown or not. Yes, it was a betrayal to have not been helping him,
but instead using his blood to make herself immortal, but hardly worth a
death sentence.
Not necessariy. if Barnabas was repelled by the monster he
had become enough to want Jula to cure his "affliction" then
maybe he woudl also be repelled by the thought of
turning someone else into a vampire.
Post by Diva MagentaBut then, I thought more about it, and realized there
wasn't much else he could have done. Sure, he could have gone to Liz,
told her and gotten Julia fired, but then she'd leave Collinwood
carrying his secret with her - a dangerous situaton indeed.
But then he could bring her accross, thus siring her.
Being her sire he would have much control over her.
In a numer of vampire stories the vampires
"sire" has a great deal of power over those they
sier.
Post by Diva MagentaIf they do a sequel, they could have Julia emerge from the depths (as
alluded to in the final frame) and use her skills to bring Angelique
back, to team up against the Collins family for revenge, but then Julia
would have a change of heart and side with the family against Angie
instead.
But then they could find the stairway in time, do the i ching thing,
to go back in time before someoen dies or do the old standby,
go to a parallel time.
There are tons of things that could be done in a sequel.
Post by Diva MagentaAnd since I'm in spoiler space, I mentioned having a different
interpretation of the ending, where Vicki was being oompelled to walk
toward Widow's Hill like Josette was at the beginning of the film. At
first, I wondered how Angelique could be making her do that since she
had just been destroyed at Collinwood.
Maybe she wan't "really" destroyed?
Maybe Angelique dies and takes
over the body of Vicki?
Maybe Angelique leaves enough
horcruxes aound that she can
come back to life?
There are lots of ways to continue
the story if there is a sequel.
If they do makie a sequel there is plenty of material they could use.
(Maybe Julia got enough of Barnabas's blood to have been
brought accross/maybe Angelique is able to come back to life/etc.
Or they could find other ways to continue the story.
As far as Roger goes, my point was that the ceonsors and the suits
at the network were cautious about what they would allow to go out
over the TV airwaves. What is allowed today is far different than
what was allowed in the 60s. They actually had censors then,
they have no censors today.